u kidding? of course it is! like everything else in popular culture, it depends on the content. Making everything in our lives black and white; muttur or ossur, degrades the wonderful variety of ways to serve hashem.... I am certain u can do better...
I don't think people in Lakewood are any different than anyone else. I don't believe in watching movies altogether-whether you're from Lakewood or Kalamazoo. If you think it's ok then feel free.
Well, a few factors are involved: how clean is the movie in question?
So let's say the movie is inappropriate. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you're a doctor, lawyer, or kollel guy. It's wrong. And assuming someone is learning seriously and happens to enjoy a movie (yes i know, it would be a highly unusual situation), should he stop learning simply because he lacks some self-control? Come on. And if the guy isn't learning, i don't care whether he's watching movies instead or just picking his nose. the guy oughta get a job.
and in terms of assur/mattur, at last check, God gave the same torah to the modern and the yeshivish, to the workers and the learners. what's assur for one is assur for the other, and vice versa.
the only distinction i see between a lakewood guy vs. others is the level of the potential chillul hashem of being seen in blockbuster. most non-jews would likely associate someone in yeshivish garb with being a rabbi. their seeing "the rabbi" getting an r-rated movie is not a very good impression, and is worse than merely seeing a typical jew getting that movie.
that said, the lakewood guy oughta stick to netflix.
I think if someone fuly subscribes to the Lakewood philosophy of all study all the time, any deviation from studying is wrong. Of course I bet the above description fits 2% of the people in Lakewood.
I put "learning" in quotes only because I wasn't sure whether I was referring to the 2%, or the ones who are "learning" to take the easy way out, and look like the good guy. The latter is definitely watching movies, and I think the Chillul Hashem factor has little to do with it.
But I do think that is the guy was sincere, the learning itself would make him not watch movies. After all isn't that one its many benefits??
Why can't everyone just worry about themselves and set their OWN limitations, boundaries, etc. instead of the oilem mandating how they have to live their lives?
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u kidding? of course it is! like everything else in popular culture, it depends on the content. Making everything in our lives black and white; muttur or ossur, degrades the wonderful variety of ways to serve hashem.... I am certain u can do better...
6:31 AM
I don't think people in Lakewood are any different than anyone else. I don't believe in watching movies altogether-whether you're from Lakewood or Kalamazoo. If you think it's ok then feel free.
6:39 AM
Well, a few factors are involved: how clean is the movie in question?
So let's say the movie is inappropriate. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you're a doctor, lawyer, or kollel guy. It's wrong. And assuming someone is learning seriously and happens to enjoy a movie (yes i know, it would be a highly unusual situation), should he stop learning simply because he lacks some self-control? Come on. And if the guy isn't learning, i don't care whether he's watching movies instead or just picking his nose. the guy oughta get a job.
and in terms of assur/mattur, at last check, God gave the same torah to the modern and the yeshivish, to the workers and the learners. what's assur for one is assur for the other, and vice versa.
the only distinction i see between a lakewood guy vs. others is the level of the potential chillul hashem of being seen in blockbuster. most non-jews would likely associate someone in yeshivish garb with being a rabbi. their seeing "the rabbi" getting an r-rated movie is not a very good impression, and is worse than merely seeing a typical jew getting that movie.
that said, the lakewood guy oughta stick to netflix.
4:12 PM
I think if someone fuly subscribes to the Lakewood philosophy of all study all the time, any deviation from studying is wrong. Of course I bet the above description fits 2% of the people in Lakewood.
8:54 PM
responding--well put.
I put "learning" in quotes only because I wasn't sure whether I was referring to the 2%, or the ones who are "learning" to take the easy way out, and look like the good guy. The latter is definitely watching movies, and I think the Chillul Hashem factor has little to do with it.
But I do think that is the guy was sincere, the learning itself would make him not watch movies. After all isn't that one its many benefits??
5:24 PM
Why can't everyone just worry about themselves and set their OWN limitations, boundaries, etc. instead of the oilem mandating how they have to live their lives?
6:41 PM
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